Comments on: The Big Business Of Domain Buying/Monetization Fraud Exposed http://tinycomb.com/2009/08/14/the-big-business-of-domain-buyingmonetization-fraud-exposed/ Hand Picked Tech News. Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:56:37 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Prevent Click Fraud in Google Adwords | Mingtiandi http://tinycomb.com/2009/08/14/the-big-business-of-domain-buyingmonetization-fraud-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-14587 Prevent Click Fraud in Google Adwords | Mingtiandi Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:24:45 +0000 http://tinycomb.com/?p=10433#comment-14587 [...] you read this post, you can get a complete explanation of the high click rates, but in short, unscrupulous domainers [...] [...] you read this post, you can get a complete explanation of the high click rates, but in short, unscrupulous domainers [...]

]]> By: tobyT http://tinycomb.com/2009/08/14/the-big-business-of-domain-buyingmonetization-fraud-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-14558 tobyT Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:51:26 +0000 http://tinycomb.com/?p=10433#comment-14558 But having a unique IP per domain, at that volume, is nearly impossible. But having a unique IP per domain, at that volume, is nearly impossible.

]]> By: Bill http://tinycomb.com/2009/08/14/the-big-business-of-domain-buyingmonetization-fraud-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-14557 Bill Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:47:42 +0000 http://tinycomb.com/?p=10433#comment-14557 That's one reason why I don't enable adsense publication for my google adwords That's one reason why I don't enable adsense publication for my google adwords

]]> By: Andrew http://tinycomb.com/2009/08/14/the-big-business-of-domain-buyingmonetization-fraud-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-14245 Andrew Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:39:03 +0000 http://tinycomb.com/?p=10433#comment-14245 The majority of your article is true, but I don't buy the fraud part. Yes, there's a lot of fraud across all 'content' networks. But the reason every one of the domains the company you are referring to (which you won't name for some reason) are profitable is because they bought them through tasting. They were able to make sure they were profitable before paying for them. If all they needed was a click fraud bot, then they didn't need tasting to begin with. They could have just registered random domains and sent their bot to them.<br><br>Although many people have tried bots (and this isn't just something tried with parked domains, but also Google Adsense content sites), the ad networks are good at snuffing them out. Conversions and traffic quality is tracked, and bad clicks are not paid for. The majority of your article is true, but I don't buy the fraud part. Yes, there's a lot of fraud across all 'content' networks. But the reason every one of the domains the company you are referring to (which you won't name for some reason) are profitable is because they bought them through tasting. They were able to make sure they were profitable before paying for them. If all they needed was a click fraud bot, then they didn't need tasting to begin with. They could have just registered random domains and sent their bot to them.

Although many people have tried bots (and this isn't just something tried with parked domains, but also Google Adsense content sites), the ad networks are good at snuffing them out. Conversions and traffic quality is tracked, and bad clicks are not paid for.

]]> By: bob http://tinycomb.com/2009/08/14/the-big-business-of-domain-buyingmonetization-fraud-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-14240 bob Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:26:01 +0000 http://tinycomb.com/?p=10433#comment-14240 oh, c'mon. you don't think they would think of that. Their bots probably click every 5th visit oh, c'mon. you don't think they would think of that. Their bots probably click every 5th visit

]]> By: FMCG http://tinycomb.com/2009/08/14/the-big-business-of-domain-buyingmonetization-fraud-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-14237 FMCG Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:11:28 +0000 http://tinycomb.com/?p=10433#comment-14237 Hello JASON WILK<br><br>Thanks for sharing this valuable information!<br>We really appreciate your eye-opener article. Hello JASON WILK

Thanks for sharing this valuable information!
We really appreciate your eye-opener article.

]]> By: sc http://tinycomb.com/2009/08/14/the-big-business-of-domain-buyingmonetization-fraud-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-14235 sc Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:49:39 +0000 http://tinycomb.com/?p=10433#comment-14235 No offense intended but this is last year's news. No offense intended but this is last year's news.

]]> By: dnxpozed http://tinycomb.com/2009/08/14/the-big-business-of-domain-buyingmonetization-fraud-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-14234 dnxpozed Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:15:56 +0000 http://tinycomb.com/?p=10433#comment-14234 F.S - by your reaction we can tell you're involved in the scam... this is not Bla Bla Bla and it's about time someone peaks up. Let's level the playing field. F.S – by your reaction we can tell you're involved in the scam… this is not Bla Bla Bla and it's about time someone peaks up. Let's level the playing field.

]]> By: F.S http://tinycomb.com/2009/08/14/the-big-business-of-domain-buyingmonetization-fraud-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-14231 F.S Sun, 16 Aug 2009 05:22:10 +0000 http://tinycomb.com/?p=10433#comment-14231 Without naming the company this is just a bunch of bla bla...<br><br>Bla bla bla...<br><br>Jealous little rat that you are. Without naming the company this is just a bunch of bla bla…

Bla bla bla…

Jealous little rat that you are.

]]> By: Mike http://tinycomb.com/2009/08/14/the-big-business-of-domain-buyingmonetization-fraud-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-14230 Mike Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:39:43 +0000 http://tinycomb.com/?p=10433#comment-14230 "and generate between 2-4 clicks a day on the ads."<br>2-4 clicks a day on a domain that gets little or no traffic otherwise would look like this at the end of the month assuming 3 clicks and 5 visitors a day:<br>150 Unique Visitors<br>90 Clicks = 60% Click Through Rate.<br>That should set off the Click Fraud filters right away.<br>How easy would it be to spot a portfolio of domains with a 50% CTR while everyone else is getting 9%?<br>The BEST domains get a 15% CTR<br>Seems easy to spot the fraud to me. Any legit parking company would/should look into any CTR above 30% for any sustained period of time. Unless it is in everyones best interest not to. <br><br>If they wanted to stop it, they could. The advertisers get hurt and eventually every click is going to net the domain owner .01 once the adevertisers stop paying for clicks that net no sales. Once advertisers start paying only for clicks that actually lead to sales, which is where web advertising is going, these fraudsters will be wiped out. “and generate between 2-4 clicks a day on the ads.”
2-4 clicks a day on a domain that gets little or no traffic otherwise would look like this at the end of the month assuming 3 clicks and 5 visitors a day:
150 Unique Visitors
90 Clicks = 60% Click Through Rate.
That should set off the Click Fraud filters right away.
How easy would it be to spot a portfolio of domains with a 50% CTR while everyone else is getting 9%?
The BEST domains get a 15% CTR
Seems easy to spot the fraud to me. Any legit parking company would/should look into any CTR above 30% for any sustained period of time. Unless it is in everyones best interest not to.

If they wanted to stop it, they could. The advertisers get hurt and eventually every click is going to net the domain owner .01 once the adevertisers stop paying for clicks that net no sales. Once advertisers start paying only for clicks that actually lead to sales, which is where web advertising is going, these fraudsters will be wiped out.

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