When Times Aren’t As Rough As They Seem

by Jason Wilk on January 14, 2009

  • When I sat down to lunch a few weeks ago with Shopzilla and BizRate founder, Farhad Mohit, one of the topics discussed was the state of venture capital and just how bad the environment is for them right now. He told me that he wouldn’t truly believe the VC’s are hurting and that we are heading towards a depression until the limited partners began asking for their money back. Well, if this is not a sign of what’s to come, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, one of Silicon Valley’s most prominent venture funds, is currently raising annex funds for its eleventh (2004) and twelfth funds (2006), in order to have cash on hand in case it needs additional follow-on capital. It also has reopened fund raising for a pair of funds initially closed last year: The $700 million Fund XIII and the $500 million Green Growth fund. Moreover, the Green Growth fund is now open to limited partners that have not previously invested with Kleiner Perkins, which is a pretty big deal from a legacy access perspective [PE HUB][VB]
  • Kleiner is very concerned about the lack of liquidity options for current portfolio companies, and is reportedly about to close the deal on the money to keep companies in their portfolio safe. Overall, this is a good thing. It potentially means that both limited partners and VC’s see an end to this economic crisis in the distance, a short one at that. Don’t forget in the event we have hit the bottom of the problems and things are going to get better, you and I will be the last to know. Kind of like how we had been in a ‘recession’ for 8 months before it was really announced to everyone. Once deemed over, the rebound from the crisis will create once in a lifetime opportunities for investors who will turn billions. Don’t expect there to be a knock on your door, the rebound could be near.

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  • Jason Wilk
    I'm with you mjaybee, we need innovation and entrepreneurship in America. I believe that there is always money around for good ideas.
  • mjaybee
    I think you are going to see a movement amongst LPs away from "alternative investments" such as private equity, and back to a mix of stocks and bonds, the latter providing a possibility of "preservation of capital", which seems almost quaint in today's climate.

    I hope that is not the case. We need innovation and entrepreneurship in America. Unfortunately, VCs have been acting more as merchant banks than true "venture capitalists" as of late.
  • Jason Wilk
    Thanks for clearing it up Farhad. I'll edit the post.
  • I actually said: "until VCs start returning money in their funds due to lack of investment opportunities."

    Remember that VCs make their money from a ~2% management fee (for the whole fund under management) and a percentage of profits generated. So, they are loathe to return any money under management because it is "sure income" for them. However, if the "Good Times" are truly at an end, as some VCs have speculated, then what are they telling their Limited Partners (investors) as the reason for holding onto their money and charging a management fee?

    So, asking VCs whether the good times are over, just gets you the biased perpsective of "buyers" telling you what they think the market looks like. Note, they have every incentive to tell you (entrepreneurs) that times are tough, valuations should be lowered and that you should take whatever offer then give you.

    However, until I see money being returned to the LPs for lack of investment opps, my guess is that they're telling their investors a different story...

    More like: Times are tough, but with our BS "Fearmongering" presentations we've scared entreps into lowering their valuations to a point where we are seeing incredible investment opportunities, blah blah blah (where blah blah blah basically = "so let us keep investing your money and earning our 2% fee).
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